TGCCC Adopted Minutes 21 March 2005
TGCCC
TERMINALS GEELONG COMMUNITY CONSULTATIVE COMMITTEE
ADOPTED MINUTES
MONDAY 21 MARCH 2005
PRESENT Robin Saunders:
TGCCC / Interim Chair
Paul Dakin:
Northern Community Consultative Group
Franceska Dezalak:
Special Monitors of Geelong
Doreen Rafferty:
Community member
Anne Marie McCarthy:
Community Relations Officer, EPA
Alexander Jovcic:
EPA Manager Geelong
Marcus Mulcare:
EPA Client Manager
Ralph Taylor:
Community Rep
Jeff Hibbert:
Terminals Pty Ltd
George Horman:
Managing Director, Terminals Pty Ltd
Jack Moor:
Ports Chemical Action Group
Bill Aitken:
Northern Community Consultative Group
Carlo Fasolino:
State Manager, Terminals Pty Ltd
Gary O'Sullivan:
Operations Manager Corio, Terminals P/L
Geoff Cooke:
Worksafe
John Wilson:
Multiple Chemical Sensitivity Group
Sue McLean:
Geelong Community for Good Life
Col Edwards:
Friends of Point Lillias and Corio Bay
Chris Collins:
North Shore Residents Group
Jon Apted:
Director Planning, Geelong Grammar School
Barry Foss:
Operations Officer, CFA Geelong
Joan Lindros:
Geelong Environment Council
Sonia Hamill:
Community Member
Katie Rafferty:
Minute Taker
Geoff Millard:
HSE Manager, Terminals Pty Ltd
Irena Moor:
Community Member
Maria Ostoja:
Special Guest from Slovenia (not committee member)
Angelo Smarelli:
O&M Superintendent, Terminals Pty Ltd
Cr Tony Ansett:
City of Greater Geelong
Steve Sodamaco:
City of Greater Geelong
Bernie Bliss:
Chair, Northern Community Consultative Group
Terry Croke:
Northern Community Consultative Group
Bruce Coles:
Northern Community Consultative Group
Joyce Bliss:
Northern Community Consultative Group
Mr J Arnott:
Northern Community Consultative Group
APOLOGIES
Gordon Alderson, Jo Cicero, Catherine Jones, Peter Linaker
ITEM 1. Welcome: Introduction by Chair
Robin: Welcomed everyone present. Stated that the purpose of the committee was a communication channel between the community and Terminals with an emphasis on exchanging views and information.
Established ground rules: no interrupting, treat each other with respect. Robin asked that the committee work through the Chair, by raising a hand if wanting to speak, names would be added to list and speakers would be called upon.
Stated that the control of the group would be everyone's job [^] the residents and the community representatives.
Robin reiterated that he is the interim chair, appointed and paid for by Terminals, and will remain in the job while he has the support of the community members.
Robin introduced Katie Rafferty, the minute taker.
ITEM 2. Introductions by Committee Members
Robin: Asked that all members briefly introduce themselves.
Paul: Representing Northern Suburbs Community Consultative Committee.
Franceska: Representing Special Monitors of Geelong. A resident of 50 years and very concerned
about butadiene and accidents like the spill on Thursday. Stated that the community was not happy about having any chemicals in Geelong and that they will try to stop more toxic chemicals coming to Geelong.
Doreen: Present as an observer.
Anne Marie: Community Relations Officer, EPA.
Alex: EPA Manager Geelong.
Marcus: EPA case manager for Terminals.
Ralph: Retired industrial chemist.
Geoff H: Terminals employee
George: Managing Director Terminals.
Jack: Representing the Ports Chemical Action Group.
Bill: Local resident of 35 years. Involved with community groups and affairs. Concerned for the Geelong community. Representing the Northern Community Consultative Committee.
Carlo: State Manager Victoria, Terminals.
Gary: Operations Manager Corio, Terminals.
Geoff C: Worksafe officer for Terminals.
John W: An advocate for Multiple Chemical Sensitivity victims. Also with the Shell community liaison group.
Sue: Representing Geelong Community for Good Life. Concerned about chemical emissions and the impact on the community.
Col: Representing Friends of Point Lillias and Corio Bay. Very concerned in general.
Chris: Representing North Shore Residents Group.
Jon: Employed by Geelong Grammar School for 28 years. Representing the school's interests. Stated that the school has 800 boarders and a large staff/family community living at the school.
Barry: Operations officer for Country Fire Authority. Has been a resident since 1956.
Joan: Geelong Environment Council. Opposed to chemicals.
Sonia: Concerned with media reports, wants to get facts and be informed. Can't be part of the committee but would like to be sent minutes and be on the list.
Geoff M: HSE (Health, Safety & Environment) Manager, Terminals.
Irena: Corio resident for 23 years. Concerned that further tanks may follow and that Corio and Norlane are under threat from chemicals.
Maria: Present as observer.
Angelo: Terminals.
Tony: Councilor with the City of Greater Geelong. Concerned with clean air/safety and lifestyle. Stated that the whole of Geelong would be affected, not just the north. Opposed to what is being proposed.
Steve: Coordinator Health, City of Greater Geelong. Concerned with social and health issues.
ITEM 3. Committee Terms of Reference
Robin: Agreed to read the headings and a few sentences of each section of the Terms of Reference to the committee with a view to possible endorsement of the draft Terms, beginning with Purpose.
Sue: Suggested amendment. Include a process by which environmental improvement can be achieved. The Committee's purpose is environmental improvement.
George: No problem with that.
Franceska: Concerned that is assuming butadiene already has the go ahead. Refuses to agree to anything to do with butadiene.
Robin: States the meeting is not about butadiene. The meeting is about the committee and the purpose of the committee. Terminals still exists and the Terms of Reference need to be established because the committee will exist with or without butadiene.
Franceska: Aware that Terminals exists but prefer to get straight into Butadiene issues as the community feels that is most important and this is the community's meeting.
Jon: Points out that Sue's ideas covered in Objective 2.
Sue: Prefer it (environmental improvement) as a purpose of this group.
Robin: A valid and sensible point made by Sue, for a process by which environmental improvement can be achieved.
Franceska: Butadiene is a purpose.
Robin: Butadiene is not a purpose of the committee.
Franceska: Community decides what the purpose of the committee is. All the issues to be important.
Joan: Would like the committee to be aware of and discuss chemicals to be stored. Committee should be able to express concerns. Butadiene is a precedent but there are other factors to prevent Coode Island from coming to Geelong.
Paul: The committee should be an avenue for the community to go through to Terminals.
Joan: If things are put to committee then it can be assumed the community is being made aware.
John W.: Terminals came to Geelong regardless of the community wishes. It was stated more jobs would be created but there have only been 8. The community does not want the storage of chemicals in Geelong.
Robin: Amend the Purpose to include: "TGCCC is an avenue through which Terminals must consult with the community, following PACIA's principles of Community Right to Know and Responsible Care."
George: No problem with what has been said.
Sonia: Impressed Terminals is having a consultative committee and that a lot of Terminals reps are present. The City of Greater Geelong also has a consultative committee. Why are there both?
Tony: The other is for the whole Port Strategy, for all users of the port. The overall plan has to be done by government as the first version was thrown out. Incorporates historical, environmental and workplace and has to fit the needs of everyone.
Bill: Referred to the Scope section of the Terms of Reference and points out that Terminals shares a jetty with Shell and has other land leased out. The scope should include all the surrounds of Terminals otherwise it is only referring to the fenced off areas.
Robin: How should it be put?
Bill: Include areas that can be partnered and shared with other companies.
Franceska: Include the ships and the jetty.
Sue: When Terminals talks about operations, are ships and trucks included? The EPA and others often talk about who is responsible.
George: It includes shipping coming in, Terminals does not have direct control but when the ship is alongside it is Terminals' concern.
All operations within the terminal and with trucking must meet requirements. It is Terminals' duty of care to make sure trucks are maintained. Terminals obtain evidence from trucking companies to show they are maintained. It is the truck company's responsibility but Terminals check it.
Regarding the Shell ground contamination issue, it is on Terminal's land and Terminals are interested in it.
George stated that over time the committee would become au fait with the operations at Terminals. It was not the intention to become involved with such issues as channel deepening but rather things specifically to do with Terminals.
Joan: Current and future strategic issues need to be covered in the Scope.
George: The berth is Toll's and Terminals is not responsible for it's upkeep.
Col: Is Terminals in charge of ships that come in, with regard to such things as bilge water discharge?
George: Toll's ports have to deal with shipping companies over those issues.
Col: Mentioned Shell discharge. Do Terminals chemicals come in with Shell's? Col raised the issue of water used from the bay.
Gary: The ships draw water from the bay to run through the heat exchanger.
George: The ballast water is relevant, heat exchange water is relevant. We need to find out all we can about how this water is treated. Maybe the EPA can help out with this. That issue can be brought forward at this committee meeting.
Robin: Need to ensure the committee can cover all these issues, that it is within the scope.
Tony: It is obvious that the fence around Terminals needs to be expanded.
Robin: The scope could include transport of material in and out and any areas that surround.
Jack: Concerned about the pipeline from the ship to the tank. Will it be an old or new pipeline?
George: Pipelines can be dedicated or semi-dedicated. Butadiene would have a new dedicated pipeline.
Robin: Explained that dedicated means the pipeline is only used for one product always.
George: A new dock line was put in six years ago for monoisopropyle amine (MIPA). (George confirmed after the meeting that a new dock line for monoethylene glycol was constructed in 1994, and that in 1998 the vinyl chloride monomer (VCM) dock line was replaced.)
Bill: Asked who is responsible for products only stored by Terminals?
George: Terminals.
Robin: In 1999 Terminals did not take responsibility for it.
Bill: Two tanks were approved to be built at Terminals. An application was put in for two in 1999. Shell's application was knocked back [^] kitchen washing liquid.
George: Unaware of such a proposal in 1999. In 1998 there were two proposals and in 2002 propylene sphere but unsure about Bill's query.
ACTION: BILL to go back through records to find out more about the 1999 application.
Bill: Are Terminals a leasee?
George: Terminals do not own the product but are stevedore for bulk liquid. Terminals use the port interface but do not own, use or manufacture anything. Terminals provide a service so companies can bring in any products they may need. Terminals don't own the products but they are the responsibility of Terminals, who are the custodians.
Bill: Provided George with details of 1999 storage tanks.
Chris: Raised the issue of the lack of responsibility of the people on the ships. He stated his great concern that they dock, couple to the mainline pipes but they come in rust buckets and have no responsibility.
Questioned the process of unloading chemicals and how many people were involved.
George: As soon as the chemical leaves the ship's flange, Terminals has custody. It (gas) goes straight into the spheres and the gas is compressed in the spheres. There are emergency vents in the spheres.
Chris: Are there fail-safes?
George: Where vents are, there are gas detectors. Fire brigade is called immediately where there is an incident.
Chris: Requests for the committee to be able to see the tanks at some stage.
Franceska: Asked if Robin was being paid by Terminals Pty Ltd.
Robin: Replied that he was being paid by Terminals. Clarifies that the issue Chris is raising will take a few meetings. May ask George to make a presentation about these things in the future but not right now. It is on the table. Robin states that he was also Chair for the Coode Island Consultative Committee.
Franceska: Concerned that she has to say all the negative things, particularly regarding Robin being on the Coode Island Consultative Committee and whether this committee should have him as its Chair.
Joan: Stated she was on the Point Lillias Coode Island Committee for several years and found Robin to be the fairest chair. He heard everything people wanted to say and was fairer than most would have been. Joan expressed her view that due to Robin, this committee would hear everyone's views.
Robin: Responded to Franceska that although she was having to say negative things, it was her right to say them, and it was to the benefit of the Committee for her to express them, and that in doing so she is contributing to the Committee. He then explained his position as Chair.
FIVE MORE PEOPLE ENTER THE MEETING.
Robin: Requests that the new arrivals introduce themselves to the committee.
Bernie: Chairperson for the Northern Community Consultative Committee, advises that the TGCCC meeting is on the same day as the NCCC meeting, which is why they are late and why Paul Daikin was sent on their behalf to be part of the entire meeting.
Terry: Also a member of the NCCC, which, for four years has involved Norlane and Corio but now, includes the whole of the northern suburbs of Geelong.
Bruce: Member of the NCCC.
Joyce: Member of the NCCC.
Mr Arnott: Member of the NCCC.
Robin: Advised that the purpose and scope of the committee are being teased out. Stated that the scope will now include transport of material in and out and any surrounding areas.
Joan: Requested the mention of future proposals for storage.
Robin: Current and future proposals to be included in redraft.
Paul: Had hoped Terminals would have put forward options for three candidates for chairman. The committee will need a deputy chair, as Robin will be away. Felt that that choice should come from the community.
Stated that this committee should put forward a representative for the Strategic Land Use Plan Committee.
Robin: Happy to have three names as options for Chair.
Jon: Explained that Paul wished that had happened in the beginning, not that it should happen now.
Paul: Agreed. Is happy to continue for now but would have liked a choice.
George: Terminals chose Robin because of his experience with Point Lillias. It was an interim appointment to get the ball rolling. Committee can put forward names so everyone is happy.
Sue: Robin is away until when?
Robin: 9th May.
Sue: Suggested leaving Robin as interim chair for now but discuss who will chair the meeting while Robin is away.
Also suggests that Objective 3 of the Draft Terms of Reference be amended to read[sigma] "To provide information to the community about Geelong, its operation, the hazards and risk it poses, report on incident spills and license breeches, emergency management procedures and any significant changes proposed to the facility.
Tony: Suggested the City of Greater Geelong provide the interim chair for the meeting Robin will miss.
Robin: Put the suggestion to the committee, who agreed.
Franceska: Would Terminals pay?
Tony: The City will pay for the replacement chair to show support.
George: Appreciates offer of city to pay (tongue in cheek).
Robin: Tony to arrange.
ACTION: TONY TO ARRANGE INTERIM CHAIR FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
Paul: Restated the second issue: TGCCC member for the city's Strategic Land Use Plan Committee.
Tony: Will advertise when the committee is to be set up.
Robin: Requested Tony let this committee know when it is going to be advertised. Names and emails to be distributed so all can be informed when advertising takes place.
ACTION: TONY TO ADVISE COMMITTEE OF ADVERTISING FOR CITY LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE.
Robin: Will provide the TGCCC with an opportunity to review his performance as chair at some stage in six to twelve month's time.
Bill: Referred to page 3 and stated that sometimes community groups are lay people who don't understand technical wording. Bill discussed the possibility of consulting separately with the EPA, Worksafe and CFA.
Robin: Suggested that if the committee wants advice from one of these bodies, it be requested and covered at the next meeting.
Clarified the three tiers of consultation and notes that Terminals is prepared to sit and work through issues and listen to the committee.
Col: The community does not want Terminals to expand its operations.
George: Stressed that Terminals will not shut down. If Terminals cannot expand or change it will have to shut down eventually. Terminals will go every step of the way with the community. If Terminals succeeds in getting a permit and goes ahead with the butadiene proposal, the community can be a part of the design and implementation process.
The community will get its way if they succeed in their opposition to the proposal. If not, George stressed his desire that Terminals and the community work together and take into account all the community concerns to come up with the best facility possible.
Col: The community has been left out of the decision making. VCAT has no consultation with the community.
Robin: There will be an opportunity for that. Asks the EPA reps if the community have their views heard in the planning process.
Marcus: There was a period of public comment and submissions were made. Those have been taken into account. EPA has to approve or reject the application. If they approve it, the community has third party right of appeal to VCAT. If they refuse it, Terminals may appeal to VCAT.
Robin: Noted that it is important for community members to put in an objection if they have one.
Marcus: The period for public submissions is now closed.
Alex: EPA has already extended the submission period.
Marcus: EPA now moving into the next stage of approval but a significant number of groups have put objections to the EPA.
Sue: Noted that you don't have to have lodged an objection, there is still the right to object to works approval with VCAT within statutory time frames. However there are only a certain number of days to lodge an objection with VCAT after the approval is granted.
Robin: Asked Marcus to keep the committee informed of the dates and the process itself.
Tony: Council has lodged an objection to the works approval.
Marcus: Hasn't seen it but will check.
Col: Has the petition been accepted? Col tables the petition.
Marcus: It has been accepted as part of the feedback into the EPA's decision.
Robin: Asked Marcus to advise the committee of the decision and the date by which appeals must be lodged, once the EPA makes a decision.
ACTION: MARCUS TO ADVISE THE COMMITTEE BY EMAIL AS SOON AS EPA MAKES THE DECISION
Sue: Raised the issue of the misinformation given to council in Terminals application. In particular the statement that Godfrey Hurst is a main user of latex manufactured from butadiene and the implication that jobs may be lost there if the butadiene proposal does not go ahead.
Sue read from Appendix 5 (information on butadiene) of the Urbis Planning Report presented to the City of Geelong and quoted "In Victoria most Butadiene is in the local manufacture of styrene-butadiene latex for Geelong's carpet industry." She pointed out to the meeting that Urbis had bold and underlined this information
Sue then stressed the need for an assurance from Terminals on the integrity of information being given out.
George: Godfrey Hurst and Brintons have been referenced; they are users in the carpet industry.
Sue: Who is the main user?
George: Dow, BASF in latex plants. The carpet industry in Victoria will need a supply of latex. To import latex you need a facility like Terminals to bring it in. It will be grim for carpet manufacturers if they can't make latex.
Butadiene is used 100% in making latex and the major use of latex, 95%, is in the manufacture of carpet and Godfrey Hurst is a user.
Robin: How much carpet is made in Geelong compared with Melbourne?
ACTION: GEORGE TO FIND OUT FOR NEXT MEETING
Sue: Requested an undertaking from Terminals that mis-statements will not be made in the future.
George: Stated that Terminals will always try to be honest, upfront, factual and accurate with the committee.
Robin: Stated that the report Sue has, gives a report of the use of butadiene that is not very accurate.
George: It infers most butadiene is used in Geelong and that is incorrect.
Sue: Godfrey Hurst is underlined and bold.
Robin: It is incorrect in the extent that it states most of the butadiene is for use in Geelong. Asked George if he acknowledges that is not something desirable from Terminals.
George: Asserts Terminals will try to get the actual information as best as it can from Dow and BASF and will not knowingly tell lies.
Bill: Draws attention back to the wording of the three levels of consultation in the Draft Terms of Reference document.
Robin: Clarified the wording.
Franceska: Asked Marcus what date the EPA will advise the community of its decision.
Marcus: Advised EPA has four months to make a decision, around the end of April. Advised the EPA will mail out to the committee the decision, possibly earlier but around the end of April.
Franceska: Regarding the latex, Fridays Independent newspaper had an advertisement from Harvey Norman for a natural latex product [^] a foam mattress, stating the latex was obtained from trees. Latex can be man made or natural.
George: Latex is synthetic rubber.
Carlos: Natural latex from trees is used to make amongst other things, condoms. Latex for carpet cannot be natural latex as it doesn't have the right properties.
Tony: Asked why butadiene isn't stored where manufactured, where there are buffer zones. Why is it coming to Geelong when it is further from Coode Island and Geelong's site is not designed for that purpose as it has houses within two kilometres and a large school within one kilometre. Why Geelong and not Coode Island?
George: Stated that Melbourne stores Benzene, far more carcinogenic than butadiene. Terminals tended to Geelong because there is no room at Coode Island. The Geelong site has the facilities and has been set up for the purpose of storing gas. It was Dow's decision to go with Terminals so they are going ahead.
Sue: Stated that Terminals made an economic decision to store in Geelong but could have stored it in Melbourne if they had taken a tank out.
George: Stressed it was not an economic decision, that there was no room in Melbourne, that 30 tanks would have to be removed to get the clearance of 60 [^] 70 metres.
Sue: Referred to when they both looked at the map and George had said only a few tanks would have to be taken out, not 30.
George: Couldn't confirm this. Didn't believe Marstel (at Coode Island) had room either.
Joan: Asked about clearance on the highway and why Dow can't store it on their premises as it is less distance.
George: Requested Workcover talk about it. Mentioned that VCM from Terminals is transported up the highway 24 times a day, and that many tankers with propane and LPG use the freeway. Butadiene has less pressure than these other products and only one truck per day would be needed to transport it.
Sue: The shortest road distance is ship to destination.
Robin: Drew attention to the time.
John: Concerned there is a certain amount of arrogance from Terminals. They have come to Geelong with the promise of jobs that didn't eventuate.
States butadiene is manufactured in Melbourne and that it is not sold to local producers.
Expressed his concern that the arrogance of Terminals is expressed in the attitude that if the community doesn't give their support, Terminals will do their own thing anyway. John stated his view that Terminals feels the people of Geelong are not important enough.
Bill: Most butadiene is used in South Australia not Victoria.
George: No butadiene is manufactured in South Australia.
John: Latex is manufactured in South Australia
George: Can't confirm that. Terminals have been in Geelong a long time, were courted to set up a business in Geelong.
The arrogance is that Terminals makes the final decisions, listens to what everyone says but is not handing the decisions over to a third party.
Bill: Shipping tonnage into Victoria small compared with SA. Latex coming back from Melbourne trucked by road has an inhibitor added to stop it turning to rubber.
ACTION: GEORGE TO FIND OUT FROM DOW AND BASF MORE ABOUT THE LATEX MARKET.
Jon: Requested that George also follow up whether natural latex can be used in carpets?
ACTION: GEORGE TO FOLLOW UP
Steve: Terminals running around for two companies who need to restructure their operations. Have all options been exhausted or is using Geelong just a convenience option?
George: Stated those companies can't get butadiene, have asked us, we would like to do it. Don't know what other options there are except they need a port to bring butadiene in.
Terry: Majority of people don't want it. Is this committee just to appease the people in Geelong, so Terminals can say yes, we are consulting with the community? Feels George's attitude is: it doesn't really matter, we want it to happen.
ITEM 4. Brief overview of the Terminals facility.
Garry: Showed slides of the tanks and spheres at the Terminals facility. Identified international standards for accreditation and stated that Terminals has regular audits to ensure compliance.
Carlos: Showed monthly operations and occurrences report formats. Include how many ships handled in year to date as well as ship movements and tonnage.
Showed road transport version, includes number of tankers and tonnage moved. Destinations can be included as well as a safety report.
Robin: Requested the recent spill be discussed as an example.
Gary: Reported on the incident on site last Thursday. Isopropyl alcohol being loaded into tanks overflowed. Quantity of the spill unknown.
Chris: Asked about gauges for quantity the tanks will hold. Asked if there are metre readings on the pumps or exact quantity figures to calculate the spillage.
George: Unable to give exact figure, only an estimate of 200 [^] 500 litres spilled.
Gary: Ship discharge figures inaccurate. 7 tonne of product spilled if using ships figures.
7500 litres taken off site (including water and foam). There are ship to shore variances.
George: Depth readings are taken at regular intervals as the tank fills. If there are problems it is a manual event. They filled the tank to a certain level and thought the rest would fit in. The calculation made by Gary was incorrect and no one picked it up. Just as it was coming over they realized there was a problem. Bund wall held the spill, emergency system was activated and foam was sprayed over the spill. Fire brigade came and put larger foam blanket. Product mixed with water.
Chris: What is the process from ship to tank?
Sue: What happened to the chemical that escaped from the contained area?
Gary: All contained in bund. Truck vacuumed out of bund and it was taken to Melbourne. Bund can be drained into water treatment pit, interceptor pit. 400 litres spilled is the best estimate.
Sue: What action was taken by Worksafe?
Geoff: Initial investigation action was that Peter Cox attended the site directly, and issued Terminals with an improvement notice to investigate the accident and the cause and report within one month period. Inspector believes the control measures either weren't good enough of weren't followed. Assessment to identify alternative controls to put into action.
Sue: Why wasn't there an alarm as soon as it went over?
George: It went wrong because Gary got the figure wrong and no one was checking it. Dip checking was not calculating how much room was left. No automatic gauge on top of the tank to stop it overflowing. Procedures were lacking. Workcover doing a major report. A formal investigation being conducted and recommendations will be made from outcomes. This is a major incident for Terminals. The cornerstone of Terminals continued improvement is to deal with every incident or complaint and make recommendations from it. George invited the committee to check all prior incidents and recommendations to see that they have been adopted.
Alex: From the EPA's investigation 2-3 things came up that impressed investigators: the quick reaction by Terminals lessened the degree of the incident and the bunding system was in operation and working fine.
Terry: Concerned butadiene has yet to be mentioned at this meeting.
Robin: Reconfirmed agenda.
Sue: More concerned with next meeting date than to discuss butadiene. Suggests meeting within the month.
Franceska: Suggested Terminals should have state of the art technology to prevent such spillage. Concerned that Terminals have implicated a worker in the recent incident and that more than one person should be doing the running around. Blaming a worker not good.
George: Will take that on board.
Robin: Back to housekeeping.
Sue: Suggested second Monday of the month for meetings.
Paul: Suggested meeting twice next month to bring up to date.
Robin: Confirmed same location unless notified by George. 6.00 for 6.30 start on 11th April and then to decide if another meeting required before May 9th.
City to provide Chair.
George: Requested email/mail details to notify committee of changes.
Robin: How to engage with media?
Steve: Leave to next meeting.
Robin: Confirmed left to next meeting. Confirmed one week notification prior to next meeting.
Paul: Requested extra copies of documents available at meetings.
ACTION: TERMINALS TO MAKE 10ADDITIONAL COPIES FOR MEETINGS.
Robin: Confirmed email contact will be made if email address available otherwise post.
Sue: Queried presentation notes available?
Robin: To be included in minutes.
Website details for background on Terminals and Coode Island www.ciccc.org
Informed committee that after every Coode Island meeting, chair made overview of issues discussed, confirmed this with some committee members then released this to the media. Discuss this media release further at next meeting.
Draft agenda will be what was not covered at this meeting plus things that have arisen tonight.
Steve: Suggested adding one hour of open forum.
Sue: Requested Terminals provide Annual Environmental Report that is due to be submitted to the EPA for the next meeting.
ACTION: TERMINALS TO EMAIL 12 PAGE MAIN PART TO ROBIN.
Doreen: Asked Terminals details of shifts and labour.
George: 24 hour shifts from Mondays to Fridays, and some overtime worked on Saturdays. There are 11 employees. If more are needed we ring them from Melbourne.
Col: Asked why Quinos is ceasing production of butadiene.
Carlos: Quinos makes ethylene. Butadiene is a byproduct when naphtha used to make ethylene. They will be producing less butadiene as naphtha no longer used as a feedstock in the ethylene production process.
Paul: Requested Environmental Report be provided at next meeting, not by email.
George: 20 copies to be provided at next meeting.
ACTION: TERMINALS TO BRING 20 COPIES OF REPORT TO NEXT MEETING
Robin: Will email report (12 pages) earlier so it can be viewed prior.
Thanked everyone for attending. Stated that George responded well but that the pressure is on Terminals
MEETING CLOSED 10.05PM
NEXT MEETING: 11 April at Centenary Hall Supper Room, Cox Rd Norlane at 6:00 for 6:30pm.